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GSalmieri: /* Assessing objections in ReasonSpace */

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Assessing objections in ReasonSpace

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	To assess an objection, you have to assess all of the objections premises and the objecting inference (represented by the red octagon). You assess the premises, as you would assess any other premise, by determining its [epistemic status]. You assess the objecting inference considering how damaging the objection would be to the premise or inference objected 'if all of the objection's premises were certain'.		To assess an objection, you have to assess all of the objections premises and the objecting inference (represented by the red octagon). You assess the premises, as you would assess any other premise, by determining its [epistemic status]. You assess the objecting inference considering how damaging the objection would be to the premise or inference objected ''if all of the objection's premises were certain''.

			Assess the objecting inference in the right-most region of the assessment scale, if being certain of its premises would put you in a position to entirely reject the objection's target. (To entirely reject an premise is to regard it as [unfounded], and to entirely reject an inference is to regard it as a [non-sequitur].) On the opposite extreme, you should assess the objecting inference as a non-sequitur (in the left-most region of the assessment scale) if you found that being certain that the objection's premises were true would give you no reason to reject the objection's target. If you think that being certain of the objection's premises would give you some reason to doubt the objection's target, but not strong enough reason to reject it entirely, then assess the objecting inference somewhere in the middle two regions of the scale (depending on how strong you think the reason is).

	~~considering how damaging~~ the objection ~~would be to~~ the ~~premise or inference objected~~ to~~, ''if all of~~ the objection's premises ~~were certain''.~~		The system will calculate a strength for the objection as a whole based on the strengths you assign to the objection's premises and the objecting inference, and the system's assessment of the objection will then place an upper limit on the assessment of the objection's target. This limit will appear as a red shaded area at the right of the target's assessment scale.

	~~Objections are assessed like other arguments. One assesses each of the objection's premises~~

	~~Objections in ReasonSpace are represented as arguments with one or more propositions leading into the red hexagon, which represents~~ the objecting inference. To assess an objection, first assess each of its premises as you would assess any other proposition. Then assess the objecting inference. To assess this inference, assume (for the sake of argument) that all of its premises are true, and ~~then consider how damaging this would be to the proposition or inference being objected to. If~~ the ~~objection~~'s premises being true would thoroughly undermine the item being objected to (showing that the premise us unfounded or the inference a non sequitur), then assess the objecting inference in the right-most region of the ~~scale. If the premises' being true wouldn't at all undermine the item being objected to,~~ then ~~assess~~ the ~~objecting inference in the leftmost region~~ of the ~~scale (as a non sequitur). If the premises~~' being true would be damaging, but not fatal to the item being objected to, then assess the objecting inference somewhere in the middle two regions of the scale (depending on just how damaging you think it is).

	~~Assessing an objection will add a limit to how highly you can assess the item objected to~~. This limit will appear as a red shaded area at the right of the assessment scale ~~of the relevant item~~.

GSalmieri: /* Assessing objections in ReasonSpace */

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Assessing objections in ReasonSpace

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	considering how damaging the objection would be to the premise or inference objected to, ~~_if~~ all of the objection's premises were ~~certain_~~.		considering how damaging the objection would be to the premise or inference objected to, ''if all of the objection's premises were certain''.

	Objections are assessed like other arguments. One assesses each of the objection's premises		Objections are assessed like other arguments. One assesses each of the objection's premises

GSalmieri: /* Assessing objections in ReasonSpace */

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Assessing objections in ReasonSpace

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	considering how damaging the objection would be to the premise or inference objected to, ~~'if~~ all of the objection's premises were ~~certain'~~.		considering how damaging the objection would be to the premise or inference objected to, _if all of the objection's premises were certain_.

	Objections are assessed like other arguments. One assesses each of the objection's premises		Objections are assessed like other arguments. One assesses each of the objection's premises

GSalmieri at 15:06, 22 August 2025

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	An objection is an argument that articulates a reason for rejecting another argument. ~~Specifically it gives~~ a reason for ~~rejecting a~~ premise or inference ~~of the earlier argument~~.		An objection is an argument that articulates a reason for rejecting another argument. It does this by objecting to one of the argument's premises or inferences. The objection as formulating as an argument a reason for giving the relevant premise or inference a low [[Assessing_Arguments_in_ReasonSpace\|assessment]].

	In ReasonSpace an ~~objections~~ is represented by a red octagon with a red arrow pointing to the premise or inference that is being objected to. Each objection will have at least one premise, connected to it in the same way ~~that orem more or~~		In [https://app.reasonspace.com ReasonSpace] an objection is represented by a red octagon with a red arrow pointing from it to the premise or inference that is being objected to. Each objection will have at least one premise, connected to it by black arrow (in the same way premises are connected to other arguments).

	~~is a weakness in another argument. An objection can be aimed at a premise or an inference. In [https://app.reasonspace.com ReasonSpace] objections~~ are ~~represented by red octagons~~.

	=Objections to premises=		=Objections to premises=

	An objection to a premise is an argument that the premise is unfounded and therefore is of no value in establishing any further conclusion. The objection can show this either by showing that the premise is false, or else by showing that we are in no position to know (or have any reason to believe) that it is true.		An objection to a premise is an argument that the premise is unfounded (or otherwise week) and therefore is of no (or little) value in establishing any further conclusion. The objection can show this either by showing that the premise is false, or else by showing that we are in no position to know (or have any reason to believe) that it is true.

	Here is an example of a map of an argument with an objection that one of the premises is false.		Here is an example of a map of an argument with an objection that one of the premises is false.
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	{{Map\|https://app.reasonspace.com/arguments/b7ec631838ae4978af3aba15512105e8}}		{{Map\|https://app.reasonspace.com/arguments/b7ec631838ae4978af3aba15512105e8}}

	=Assessing ~~arguments with~~ objections in ReasonSpace=		=Assessing objections in ReasonSpace=

			To assess an objection, you have to assess all of the objections premises and the objecting inference (represented by the red octagon). You assess the premises, as you would assess any other premise, by determining its [epistemic status]. You assess the objecting inference considering how damaging the objection would be to the premise or inference objected 'if all of the objection's premises were certain'.



			considering how damaging the objection would be to the premise or inference objected to, 'if all of the objection's premises were certain'.

			Objections are assessed like other arguments. One assesses each of the objection's premises

	Objections in ReasonSpace are represented as arguments with one or more propositions leading into the red hexagon, which represents the objecting inference. To assess an objection, first assess each of its premises as you would assess any other proposition. Then assess the objecting inference. To assess this inference, assume (for the sake of argument) that all of its premises are true, and then consider how damaging this would be to the proposition or inference being objected to. If the objection's premises being true would thoroughly undermine the item being objected to (showing that the premise us unfounded or the inference a non sequitur), then assess the objecting inference in the right-most region of the scale. If the premises' being true wouldn't at all undermine the item being objected to, then assess the objecting inference in the leftmost region of the scale (as a non sequitur). If the premises' being true would be damaging, but not fatal to the item being objected to, then assess the objecting inference somewhere in the middle two regions of the scale (depending on just how damaging you think it is).		Objections in ReasonSpace are represented as arguments with one or more propositions leading into the red hexagon, which represents the objecting inference. To assess an objection, first assess each of its premises as you would assess any other proposition. Then assess the objecting inference. To assess this inference, assume (for the sake of argument) that all of its premises are true, and then consider how damaging this would be to the proposition or inference being objected to. If the objection's premises being true would thoroughly undermine the item being objected to (showing that the premise us unfounded or the inference a non sequitur), then assess the objecting inference in the right-most region of the scale. If the premises' being true wouldn't at all undermine the item being objected to, then assess the objecting inference in the leftmost region of the scale (as a non sequitur). If the premises' being true would be damaging, but not fatal to the item being objected to, then assess the objecting inference somewhere in the middle two regions of the scale (depending on just how damaging you think it is).

	Assessing an objection will add a limit to how highly you can assess the item objected to. This limit will appear as a red shaded area at the right of the assessment scale of the relevant item.		Assessing an objection will add a limit to how highly you can assess the item objected to. This limit will appear as a red shaded area at the right of the assessment scale of the relevant item.

GSalmieri at 14:18, 22 August 2025

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	An objection is an argument that ~~there~~ is a weakness in another argument. An objection can be aimed at a premise or an inference. In [https://app.reasonspace.com ReasonSpace] objections are represented by red octagons.		An objection is an argument that articulates a reason for rejecting another argument. Specifically it gives a reason for rejecting a premise or inference of the earlier argument.

			In ReasonSpace an objections is represented by a red octagon with a red arrow pointing to the premise or inference that is being objected to. Each objection will have at least one premise, connected to it in the same way that orem more or

			is a weakness in another argument. An objection can be aimed at a premise or an inference. In [https://app.reasonspace.com ReasonSpace] objections are represented by red octagons.

	=Objections to premises=		=Objections to premises=

GSalmieri: /* Objections to inferences */

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Objections to inferences

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	=Objections to inferences=		=Objections to inferences=

	An objection to an inference is an argument that the inference is a non-sequitur, or (failing that) that it is not very strong. This means that it aims to show that even if one knew the premises of the inference to be true, the premises wouldn't give one a reason to think that the conclusion is true. Often such objections work by identifying the inference as a known [[Fallacies\| fallacy]].		An objection to an inference is an argument that the inference is a non-sequitur, or (failing that) that it is not very strong. This means that it aims to show that even if one knew the premises of the inference to be true, the premises wouldn't give one a reason to think that the conclusion is true. Often such objections work by identifying the inference as a known [[Fallacies\| fallacy]]. Here are two examples:


			{{Map\|https://app.reasonspace.com/submaps/c9ba87e0321f4bc8b94775604c4c85f8}}

			{{Map\|https://app.reasonspace.com/arguments/b7ec631838ae4978af3aba15512105e8}}

	=Assessing arguments with objections in ReasonSpace=		=Assessing arguments with objections in ReasonSpace=

GSalmieri: /* Objections to premises */

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Objections to premises

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	{{Map\|https://app.reasonspace.com/submaps/48105ef66a014df3a101a05128f54b46}}		{{Map\|https://app.reasonspace.com/submaps/48105ef66a014df3a101a05128f54b46}}

			In these examples we argued that a premise is false. But a proposition doesn't have to be false to be unfounded or week. We just have to not be in a position to know that it's true. Here's a map that objects to a premise on these grounds.

			{{Map\|https://app.reasonspace.com/submaps/680b23346f374ef4a596cb11685ad142}}

			Objection B gives an ''argument'' that Proposition 2 is unknown. We could also have an objection that atterts this more directly, as in the map below:

			{{Map\|https://app.reasonspace.com/submaps/89c147f7f3ed4dd499c223c0945e5584}}

	=Objections to inferences=		=Objections to inferences=

GSalmieri: /* Objections to premises */

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Objections to premises

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	An objection to a premise is an argument that the premise is unfounded and therefore is of no value in establishing any further conclusion. The objection can show this either by showing that the premise is false, or else by showing that we are in no position to know (or have any reason to believe) that it is true.		An objection to a premise is an argument that the premise is unfounded and therefore is of no value in establishing any further conclusion. The objection can show this either by showing that the premise is false, or else by showing that we are in no position to know (or have any reason to believe) that it is true.

	Here is an example of a map with an objection ~~to a premise on~~ the ~~grounds that it~~ is ~~untrue:~~		Here is an example of a map of an argument with an objection that one of the premises is false.

	{{Map\|https://app.reasonspace.com/submaps/900d5cf08c3e428b8c3f8078089712c6}}		{{Map\|https://app.reasonspace.com/submaps/900d5cf08c3e428b8c3f8078089712c6}}

			Of course, Proposition 4 is just the opposite of Proposition 1, so someone who believed this argument is likely to just reject Proposition 4 and be unmoved by this objection. So a more convicting form of the objection might give more of an argument against Proposition 4, rather than just asserting the opposite. Here's an example.

			{{Map\|https://app.reasonspace.com/submaps/48105ef66a014df3a101a05128f54b46}}

	=Objections to inferences=		=Objections to inferences=

GSalmieri at 22:39, 16 August 2025

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	An objection is an argument that ~~attacks~~ another argument ~~by seeking to undermine its~~ inference ~~or one of its premises~~. In [https://app.reasonspace.com ReasonSpace] objections are represented by red octagons.		An objection is an argument that there is a weakness in another argument. An objection can be aimed at a premise or an inference. In [https://app.reasonspace.com ReasonSpace] objections are represented by red octagons.

	=Objections to premises=		=Objections to premises=

	An objection to a premise ~~aims to show~~ that the premise is unfounded and therefore is of no value in establishing any further conclusion. An objection can show this either by showing that the premise is false, or else by showing that we are in no position to know (or have any reason to believe) that it is true.		An objection to a premise is an argument that the premise is unfounded and therefore is of no value in establishing any further conclusion. The objection can show this either by showing that the premise is false, or else by showing that we are in no position to know (or have any reason to believe) that it is true.

			Here is an example of a map with an objection to a premise on the grounds that it is untrue:

			{{Map\|https://app.reasonspace.com/submaps/900d5cf08c3e428b8c3f8078089712c6}}


	=Objections to inferences=		=Objections to inferences=

	An objection to an inference ~~aims to show~~ that the inference is a non-sequitur, or (failing that) that it is not strong. This means that it aims to show that even if one knew the premises of the inference to be true, ~~they~~ wouldn't give one a reason to think that the conclusion is true. Often such objections work by identifying the inference as a known [[Fallacies\| fallacy]].		An objection to an inference is an argument that the inference is a non-sequitur, or (failing that) that it is not very strong. This means that it aims to show that even if one knew the premises of the inference to be true, the premises wouldn't give one a reason to think that the conclusion is true. Often such objections work by identifying the inference as a known [[Fallacies\| fallacy]].


	=Assessing arguments with objections in ReasonSpace=		=Assessing arguments with objections in ReasonSpace=

GSalmieri at 19:14, 2 September 2024

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	An objection is an argument that attacks another argument by seeking to undermine its inference or one of its premises. In [[https://app.reasonspace.com ReasonSpace]] objections are represented by red octagons.		An objection is an argument that attacks another argument by seeking to undermine its inference or one of its premises. In [https://app.reasonspace.com ReasonSpace] objections are represented by red octagons.

	=Objections to premises=		=Objections to premises=